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Urkhan Law
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2013.07.29 16:29:00 -
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I will not fly any of this ships anytime soon, but the Munnin sounds so... meeh. For what I understood in this thread it is used in a very small niche, I really hope it is bloody AWESOME in that so small niche, otherwise it is just a waste.
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Urkhan Law
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2013.07.30 11:48:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote: I think the Vaga is probably at the very bottom of the list of HACs that I would worry about.
How is the Munnin in that list? I don't think I ever saw one in space.
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Urkhan Law
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2013.08.07 10:42:00 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote: Gallente is just the smallgang-masterrace, deal with it.
Things changed, finally Gallente have fleet ships and doctrines of their own, and they rock solo too, so now Gallente rocks in solo/small gangs/big fleets, there isn't much left...
Things are better, in the sense that all races have good ships, maybe not in all classes, but in the big scenario things appear to be better than in the past.
Of course that the trend continues, the "master race" cycle that usually lasts for a few years is still present, they really don't know how to do it better even after 10 years, maybe because the people that handles this *balance* usually don't last that much in the same position. Now it really looks like Gallente is pulling ahead for the next months / years.
Harvey James wrote: please consider removing a turret from the deimos and increase a damage bonus to 10% to allow for a utility high. - Nos for brawling to help with repping - Neut for kiting to peel away frigs Increase its falloff bonus to 15% or at least 12.5% to improve blaster kiting.
Damn, and you still are asking for more? I wouldn't be surprised if they give you that too.
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Urkhan Law
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:29:00 -
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Mournful Conciousness wrote: at close range it almost always wins. As does the hyp, proteus etc etc. That's the job of a gallente blaster boat isn't it?
Of course you should blast everything at close range, the problem is all the rest that's included in the package. OBS: This HAC stuff is out of my league. |
Urkhan Law
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:42:00 -
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Mournful Conciousness wrote:
It is a good post, but will you plate your blaster deimos like the incursus was plated in those examples? Honest question.
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Urkhan Law
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2013.08.22 11:08:00 -
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Devon Weeks wrote: Now, it's pretty apparent you don't fly or understand armor ships.
^^ or never fitted an aar, not even a small one.
Shoudn't T2 ships be super-specialized or something?
Munnin, appears to be heavy specialized at one thing only, which makes it almost unusable, honestly never saw one in low sec, I know that there are groups that fly it and swear by it, and I believe the ship is that good at what it does, but it makes sense to have a ship that is used by so few?
On the other side, in the same class, you have others that are clearly designed for mass consumption, both galente hacs, vaga, cerberus, etc. I don't understand where the specialization starts and when it ends. Now you even have T1 ships, that sould be more *generic*, super-specialized in some roles. Is the tempest being used for other things beside capitals-neuting per example?
What a mess, deimos works with blasters or rails, I don't see vaga working with arties or munnin with auto-cannons or eagle with blasters. I though that the tiericide/rebalance was to end with this mess, instead you're just shuffling the cards again, some ships to the top, others to the bottom, we'll get back at it in a few months/years. |
Urkhan Law
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2013.08.22 11:47:00 -
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Mournful Conciousness wrote:I agree than the Muninn needs something special to attract me to it. At the moment it seems to lack any speciality. I like the zealot for damage projection, vagabond for speed, sacrilege for good dps in all damage types with a strong hull, Ishtar for pwnage at any range at all, Deimos for brawling, eagle and Cerberus for ++ber range. but the muninn stands alone looking a bit sad :-(
Or is it the contrary? Munnin and Eagle are ok and what they really want, and everything else is wrong?
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Urkhan Law
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2013.08.22 13:20:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote: No problems or imbalances here, just tradeoffs, you guys need to be a bit more creative and think/see out of your little box.
What are the deimos drawbacks? Munnin can become an excelente brawler, so good that I think the 3rd mid can be removed from the deimos, after all is not doing nothing in there right? And the Eagle can really put some damage, but just for a few seconds until deimos closes in. But that was not really the point of my post and I'm not in the mood to make you a drawing. |
Urkhan Law
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2013.08.22 15:19:00 -
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Roime wrote: The times when all armor tanked blaster ships were free killmails to everyone who could press "keep at range" are over.
-.- ffs, not the point. Some ships are over-specialized and will continue to not see much use. Others will be over used. What is this "tiericide" for then? If it does not even fix this usage balance (like it happened to frigs/cruisers), is just a re-shuffle.
And tbh I don't think the old age of "approach" was much more interesting, but what ever rides your boat. |
Urkhan Law
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2013.09.03 14:05:00 -
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Danny John-Peter wrote:Mournful Conciousness wrote: The ship rebalance was about... rebalancing. Not indiscriminate buffing.
Same thing was said about the Rifter and its **** now, popularity does not indicate effectiveness. What balance? The balance word makes no sense for what we have now. It's a re-shuffle based on popularity and past hull issues, don't get me wrong, it seems that it was obvious that something had to be made to the cerberus and to the diemost per example. But balance is the word? You really believe in that? Balanced performance? How the hell you have balance when the roles differ so much from ship to ship? Popularity balance? Maybe in the short term, I doubt it in 1 year when they finally see which ships are at the top and which are at the bottom, and even then, some hulls thanks to their obvious "decade iconic status' will still get used a lot despite not being good at all. Balance... pfffff.
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